Mothering yourself (and others)

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An interview with Michele Scott on Casey Radio – 24th May 2022

Listen to the audio recording on my podcast here:—May-2022—Mothering-yourself-and-others-e1jlgsq

The transcript is below if you’d prefer to read it.

• 0:01 – 0:30
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• 0:32 – 1:09
Okay. So I am absolutely thrilled to welcome back Pip Coleman. Pip is the author of finding my soul at sea and also an intuitive coach. Now, um, Pip, what I love about, uh, finding my soul at sea is, uh, you know, it was this, um, this cruise ship journey. You were on a cruise ship working as a social host, um, for six years. And, uh, you know, there were all sorts of, uh, all sorts of things that you went through. We’re gonna talk about it in our episode today, we have talked about the book before, but we’re gonna talk about the book from a different angle today.

• 1:09 – 1:16
We’re gonna come at it from a mothering angle and why we’re doing that again? Why don’t you tell our audience.

• 1:17 – 1:48
, we’re doing that because it’s, well, it’s mother’s day this month. And so we thought we’d come in and talk about the, that whole concept of not only mothering yourself, but how we mother other people and the different ways that we mother them. And, uh, I have a bit of a unique story about mothering people, because I was a social host, as you said, on a cruise ship. And that mothering happened while I was looking after the guests.

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• 1:49 – 1:57
Exactly. Yeah. And so I can’t wait to hear, uh, a little bit more about, uh, about chapter five and all of those crazy.

• 1:58 – 2:32
Guests. Okay. So let me tell you about a typical demarcation day, which would start at about five 30 in the morning. Most passengers knew what to do because they had listened to the demarcation talk. The previous day, let’s talk about the people who didn’t have a clue, even with all the information, some didn’t put their bags outside their cabin for collection, or they put their bags out, but forget to keep their clothes to wear in the morning, there were always three or four kids running around lost.

• 2:32 – 3:04
There were always people walking around in circles, confused about where to sit or stand . Some guests would just join every line, hoping to leave the ship asking, what color was that? Just cold on the PA system, asking what color is a red luggage tag asking? Where is the gangway while they’re standing at the gangway, wanting to get off when immigration and customs say, stop running back to the cabin.

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• 3:04 – 3:37
After they’ve left the ship to find their passport, their shoes, or their child . And that was just the, the ones who were actually pleasant. Uh, now let’s talk about the jerks. So some guests would just push to the front of the line, some would swear and abuse the staff when told to wait, some would pretend they had an early flight, so they could get off first and make a big fuss about it when they were stopped, some would insist on V I P luggage tags with no good reason.

• 3:39 – 4:19
Some would to complain that the specific times noted on the dation information were not exactly when the ship pulled up, started announcements and called the order of the tags. some would ask why the announcements were not made into their specific guest room. some would ask why they were not informed personally. Oh. When the de was studying. Wow. And my favorite some would claim to be ill or pregnant to get off the ship faster handling these people was an art form that had to be learned that.

• 4:19 – 4:20
It was, oh,.

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It was.

• 4:21 – 4:46
That just cracks me up because I’ve been on a couple of cruises and, you know, I’m just that type that listens to listens to what the instructions are. And I just follow those instructions to the letter. I would never think that people would, uh, behave like that. So, right. You know, that’s lots of mothering, isn’t it? You know? So how did you, yeah, how did you go? Did you, uh, how were you sort of at that first that first de.

• 4:48 – 5:25
Oh my, I mean, it really does become a, a bit of a play. You end up playing with people a lot and joing people along and, you know, same with little kids, you know, when you are, um, when your child is not misbehaving or, or not doing what you distract, you have to distract them and, you know, talk to them about funny things and ask them how their, you know, how their holiday went, what places they went to. One of my, um, colleagues used to used to sing songs, you know, you know, he’d stand at the gang way and, and make them all sing.

• 5:25 – 5:46
And , it was really interesting to see how people handled, being told what to do and being the person who is a rule follower. I was always really confused when people didn’t do what they were told to do. Yeah. Um, and particularly the ones who lied that really.

• 5:46 – 6:07
Yeah. That’s really quite, uh, that’s quite shocking. I mean, you know, if you think about, uh, especially when you think about it, in terms of, you know, the whole, the whole from start to finish, the whole thing is part of your journey. So you’ve just gotten back after this relaxing holiday. What’s the rush. I know, rush to get off the ship.

• 6:08 – 6:38
I know it’s so funny. And it just makes you think about, you know, that the way that we handle situations like, like that, I mean, an airport is a very similar situation, but people didn’t realize that an airport and a cruise terminal are the same thing, the same sort of entity, there’s a immigration and there’s, there’s customs and there’s all of the same things that you have to go through and people would just think, oh, I’m home. You know, it’s just a boat.

• 6:39 – 6:57
I can just get off and just get off and go back home, you know, so they didn’t realize, um, that, but, so I found it interesting to be in that mothering role. Yes. Not expecting that. That’s what my role as a, as a social host was going to be .

• 6:57 – 7:07
Yes. Yeah. And I think you say in your book that, uh, the reason that there was a reason why, uh, you know, your team was chosen for that task.

• 7:08 – 7:41
Yes. Well, because we actually, people liked us, you know, and we spent the whole cruise, um, entertaining them and, and having fun with them and, and they trusted us because we were, you know, people that they liked. Yeah. And so putting us at the gangway was, uh, smart, really, when you think about it too, because they were like, oh, it’s you, you played karaoke with me, or you did that, that game of bingo or whatever. And so they already had a, a pleasant association with us.

• 7:41 – 7:48
And then we were saying, no, you can’t get off the, but I.

• 7:48 – 8:00
Love that. I love how there’s, um, you know, in, in, um, you wouldn’t think that there’d be so much psychology that goes into, uh, that goes into that particular part of the journey.

• 8:01 – 8:18
Exactly. And I didn’t expect, I didn’t expect to be doing that sort of crowd control type security things as part of an entertainment role. So it was a bit of a, a shock to me and it wasn’t my favorite thing to do. Yes. But, um,.

• 8:18 – 8:45
I understand, I certainly would’ve gotten a lot out of it in terms of, uh, as you say, mothering, but, uh, but learning how to, you know, communicating with the managing difficult people and yes. Handling conflict and, you know, smoothing out ruffled feathers. And was there any surprises, um, people like, were there some people that you thought were nice, the whole cruise and they behaved badly, or at Deb, was, you know, did anything sort of stand out?

• 8:46 – 9:18
I think the main thing was, um, the people who, like I said, you know, the people who would pretend that they had, you know, something really important or, or they thought they were a V I P you know, the people who are very entitled and sort of come up blind, say, don’t, you know who I am, you know, and, and really everybody is the same . Yeah, exactly. And that was the interesting thing too, was, was dealing with people who kind of thought that they could manipulate their way off the ship.

• 9:18 – 9:21
And that’s like, children do as well, you know? Yeah.

• 9:21 – 9:52
Yeah. Love it. Well, we’re gonna take a sponsor miss from my sponsors and, uh, be right back with pit Cole and talking about finding my soul at sea radio, 97.7 FM, you’re listening to wellness conversations presented by our wellness community. My name is Michelle Scott. I’m the founder of our wellness community. And, uh, in this segment, we are talking to PIP, Coleman PIP is an author or, or the author of finding my soul at sea and also intuitive coach.

• 9:53 – 10:10
And so we’ve been talking about, uh, your beautiful journey, uh, and, and, and that entire experience of working on a cruise ship and how, how you had to really mother the guests in all sorts of ways. We just talked about, um, you know, deep, deeper Debar connection.

• 10:10 – 10:11

• 10:11 – 10:31
Really, I have trouble with that word, but, um, but let’s also have a little chat about, because there you were there, you were mothering, uh, you know, the guests, uh, to sort of get them off the ship in the, uh, the nicest possible way. But in chapter four, we’ve got, um, uh, your chapter, four’s all about meeting, inspiring people. And those people who saved you from.

• 10:31 – 10:32
Drowning in.

• 10:33 – 10:34
Ch triviality.

• 10:37 – 10:59
yes. That space, that cruise ship space is that’s really what it is. It’s very surface level. There’s lots of, you know, silliness, there’s lots of gambling, there’s lots of dancing and, and drinking. And, you know, it’s very surface level. And as a crew member, I was on board in total for six years.

• 11:00 – 11:02
It was six years. Right. I wondered,.

• 11:03 – 11:34
Which is a long time to be in that space. And as much as I loved the travel and I loved going to all the different places and the people that, that I met and the friends that I made, the, that level of surface level conversation, the trivial of it, I don’t know if trivial is the word, but anyway, that really got to me and I started to think there’s gotta be something more. And one of my friends said to me, why don’t you do the meditation classes?

• 11:35 – 12:20
And why don’t you do the personal development stuff that you love board for the guests as part of the program. And I thought, I wonder if they’d let me do that, you know, , but that would then give me an opportunity to not only mother myself and be talking about the things that I’m interested in and, and sort of take the conversations to a deeper level, which would be very nurturing. Um, but it would also give you an opportunity to meet people who were not those crazy guests, the ones who were a little bit more quiet, the ones who were off reading their book in the corner, the are ones who were interested in having a relaxing and nurturing holiday rather than a crazy drinking holiday.

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• 12:21 – 12:21

• 12:22 – 12:42
So that’s where, um, the, the turn about happened for me, where I started to begin to mother and take care of myself, as well as, um, meeting people who were way more on my ways length. And it just changed my whole experience of working on boarder ship.

• 12:43 – 13:22
I love it. And, you know, let me just, uh, I, I really like this little bit here too, because you’ve got experts in their field. And you said, you know, I really did meet some pretty cool people over the six years on board. One gorgeous old lady sent me a very sweet letter after she cruised. It included a beautiful Christmas card with an angel on the front and some new ideas for games and the, and to her beautiful card said loved getting to know and converse with you during our time on board the ship. If you say, if you stay at the same address for a while, I hope to find more games to add to your collection, enjoy the karaoke so much and wish I was blessed with the talent to sing or even to play music.

• 13:22 – 13:50
But it seems the Lord gave me the talent to play in the dirt as I love to garden with vegetables and flowers, but I can admire enjoy those who are blessed with those talents. Plus those who are able to organize all that you do, that takes talent and hard work. I hope this is your first Christmas card. This year. We had a great time on board. I believe this was our ninth cruise. May God continue to bless you. And may you be a blessing to others? Love a and C Aww.

• 13:51 – 14:23
She was so wonderful, gorgeous that lady. I remember her vividly because she came to everything that I did. As soon as we met, we just really resonated with each other. She was a sweet lady. She cruised many times before. And so she knew how to do all of the activities. And she was really pleased that there was other things to do that there were things that you could do that weren’t just your ordinary normal, you know, bingo, bingo.

• 14:23 – 14:49
I was about to say 10 times, bingo, 10 times a day, 10 times a week, I should say, got like 10 times a day. that we did, we did bingos and she was just delightful and she’s, she would come into every activity. And, uh, yeah. And those we, for a period of time, when we’re based on a ship, you usually got a six month contract approximately, and you would be based at a particular port.

• 14:49 – 15:25
And so you would have an address where people could send things from home. And she, um, wanted to send me, she wanted to send me a Christmas card and she sent me some ideas for some games and she was just very sweet. And it’s funny how you remember some people vivid, vividly, remember some people who gave you a, like, she actually was very sweet to me. And that’s yeah. When you’re in a space like that, where you’re far away from home, you appreciate when somebody is lovely towards you in that way, because you are missing your mom or your, um, family.

• 15:26 – 15:39
Yeah. And so it’s really, it’s really sweet when you, I remember when I found that comment card, when I was writing the book, I found all my old comment cards oh. That people have written and she had, I remember that lady.

• 15:40 – 16:00
That is so lovely. And then as you say, you know, it’s such a, it’s such a, an evolving journey where you are mothering. And then as you just mentioned there, it was nice for you to, uh, be taken under the wing of some older ladies that came on board, because then that was a little bit of mothering, little bit of a, sorry, that, uh, kind of mothering for you.

• 16:01 – 16:37
That’s right. And there was another, there was another lovely, um, lady who was, she was actually the mom of actually, it was the mom and the dad of one of my fellow crew members who came to cruise. Oh. And they actually introduced me to the secret, the, the movie, the secret. Yes. And they cuz they came to some of my classes and my meditations and they said you would love the secret. Cause I was obviously talking about the law of attraction and I was talking about how to manifest things and I was talking about spiritual concepts and they said, you wanna watch the movie with us?

• 16:37 – 17:12
And so they, um, set up, we set up a conference room and they, they, uh, introduced me to the secret. And it was so amazing to have this information given to me in such a clear way. And I realized that I had been living that, that law of attraction process, you know, putting it out there, your intention of what it is that you want. And then, and then following your guidance, you know, trusting your gut and, and making the steps, you know, following the breadcrumbs.

• 17:12 – 17:35
And I’ve been doing that all my life. I just didn’t realize it had a name, that it was a process. So that was amazing to, to do that. And they were so lovely as well. They took again, took me under their wing and said, you know, we’re looking after our daughter, but we’re also gonna look after you. Aw. Which yeah. So such lovely.

• 17:36 – 17:46
Oh, I love it. And how and how, um, wonderful that, uh, you know, what you need next, who you need next, how they find you in the darnest ways.

• 17:47 – 17:48
Mm. Um,.

• 17:49 – 17:51
Just amazing. Isn’t it?

• 17:51 – 18:17
Yeah, it’s so great. And the, the fact is that I actually met more people like that when I started to be trained, you know, the more that I was being more honest and truthful about what I was like and putting myself out there in that more authentic way, by teaching the classes and, and offering those activities, the more of those people that I attracted,.

• 18:18 – 18:37
Um, that is a boom. That is a boom, boom, uh, statement there. Um, so we’re gonna take a, take a, another message from our sponsors and come back and talk more about that, because that is absolutely that’s gold PIP. That’s really gold, you know, um, in terms of Laura attraction. So we’ll be right back.

• 18:37 – 18:41
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• 18:41 – 19:12
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• 19:12 – 19:47
We’re talking to PIP Coleman and PIP is the author of finding my soul at sea, also intuitive coach and PIP. Just before we went to break out, you were talking about the secret and talking about how, when you first got on board the ship, you know, it was all about, uh, you know, fun and fr, and then at some point, uh, you know, you just wanted more, it wasn’t enough. And you started to started to change from the inside out and how, when you started doing that, you’ve actually started attracting a different, a different class of people or a different people with different, uh, different interest.

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• 19:48 – 19:48
Tell us.

• 19:48 – 19:49
More, tell us more.

• 19:50 – 20:11
yes. So the, the main thing that happened was that I got permission from the management to actually run these meditation classes and some destiny drawing, which is, uh, like an intuitive kind of drawing class with crayons and wow. Um, it’s quite fun. And.

• 20:11 – 20:12
I didn’t though, you drew PIP.

• 20:13 – 20:45
Well, I, I’m not a good drawer. , I’m a, I’m a stick figure, kind of a drawer. I’m like, this is me and this is my dog. And, uh, yeah, I’m not a drawer at all, but I love the whole, I love art and I love theater and I love all of that symbolism and symbol that comes up when somebody does a piece of artwork. And I once had somebody show me how to do this, what I call destiny drawing, where you, you get a big piece of butcher’s paper and, um, some crayons.

• 20:45 – 21:03
And then you ask the question, what is my destiny? And you just pick up the first color that attracts your attention and you start to draw without thinking about it. So it’s about just picking the colors and drawing symbols and, and keep on asking yourself in your mind, what is my destiny?

• 21:03 – 21:34
What is my destiny? What is my destiny? And the other, the idea is to just let it flow. So even if it is stick figures all over the place, and it’s not, um, you know, a masterpiece, the idea is to let it all out on the paper. And then at the end of the 40 minutes or whatever we would draw, um, I would then say to people, okay, let’s talk about what you’ve drawn on your piece of paper. And I would have my various dream books and, um, color books and things like that.

• 21:34 – 21:50
And we’d talk about what each of the colors means and what each of the symbols means. And people would say, I’ve got three birds. What does that mean? And you know, someone else would say, oh, I’ve drawn a, you know, a river that has a, a bridge over it. What does that mean?

• 21:50 – 22:32
And so we would, um, talk about all of the symbols and then people would give their own, you know, they give their own interpretation of like, oh, I drew a mountain. And I think that’s because I want to, you know, achieve this goal. And, um, you know, they would start to interpret their own, their own intuitive drawing. It was really quite fascinating. And there was some, some super cool people who came to that class that was amazing, you know, some incredible artists that came and just drew magnificent magnificent things that, um, yeah, there was one man who, there’s a story in the book about this man who drew a Phoenix.

• 22:33 – 22:44
Oh. And he was, he was such an amazing, he was one of those artists that does, it’s called magical realism where they can actually make something look four dimensional when they draw it.

• 22:45 – 23:18
Wow. And such an incredible artist. And he said to me, at the end of it, he drew this amazing bird and filled up this whole page with this, this incredible bird. And I said, that was amazing. And he said, you know what? I never draw for myself anymore. I always draw commissioned pieces or things for, you know, um, for money for my, for my business, but I don’t draw for myself anymore. And he said, that was the most liberating thing that I’ve done just to sit down and draw for me.

• 23:18 – 23:26
And I was like, how amazing is that? You know, I wish I’d taken a photograph of his, his, his drawing. It was incredible. Yeah. But.

• 23:26 – 23:32
How also, how lovely, how lovely for you to know that you created a space,.

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• 23:33 – 23:40
Somebody else got to be mothered. Yeah. Got to be, uh, got to tap into their own flow and,.

• 23:40 – 23:41
And yeah.

• 23:41 – 23:46
He, he painted for him in that moment. I mean, that is really very cool.

• 23:47 – 24:18
Isn’t it, it, it was a really cool moment and that I had so many cool moments where people would say, you know, this really affected my life, not just my crews, you know, I, I have a little bit there where people have written some of their comment cards about, you know, one lady said that she had been depressed for years and came on the cruise. Wasn’t thinking that she would, you know, have much fun. And she said that the meditation classes have changed her life. She’s gonna go and do meditation now.

• 24:18 – 24:36
And she didn’t feel as low as she’d been feeling it. And I just thought if I can affect people in this way, in like three meditation classes, how amazing would it be to do this as a job for my work, like in the world. So that’s what inspired me. And then.

• 24:36 – 24:39
That’s how exactly that’s, how.

• 24:39 – 24:39
Do, what I.

• 24:39 – 24:46
Grew into, uh, into what you, uh, into you putting, uh, a business around first with the meditation, but then you kept learning.

• 24:47 – 25:17
Mm mm. Yes. I kept learning, did my Reiki training all the way through to Reiki master. And then I trained, uh, to be an angel intuitive with, um, an advanced angel intuitive. Actually I did both courses with Doreen virtue when she was doing that way back when. Yeah. And, and yeah, and it’s just evolved from there, you know, um, more and more people have come to me, who’ve said, this is something that I’m really interested in. Can you teach me more?

• 25:18 – 25:26
And it’s amazing when that happens, when you start to have people saying, what else can you teach me? It’s like, wow, that’s incredible. it is what.

• 25:26 – 25:46
Is, and it just, just fills you up, you know, you feel so, um, uh, it’s, it’s so satisfying. It’s so invigorating just to be doing something, um, purposeful, you know? Yes. And as you say, you, you wanted to do something that, uh, was a bit more deep and meaningful and, uh, you know, here you are.

• 25:47 – 25:47

• 25:47 – 26:06
So, and so PIP, then let’s take that, uh, then out of the book in terms of mothering and, uh, so, you know, you get, uh, you get off the cruise ship and, uh, you did have to, and then when you decided to write the book, we’ll talk a little bit about how you really had to, uh, cause that’s a big project writing the book is a big project.

• 26:07 – 26:37
Huge. It’s huge. I wasn’t sure about when I was, I figured I would write a book eventually about my time on board, but I didn’t know how it was going to come about. And I just started to in 2018, I just started to wake up every morning. I started to wake up and I got this thought, you need to write the book now. And I, wow. It was just kept coming to me every morning. And I was like, well, I don’t, I don’t know how I need someone to help you with that. yeah.

• 26:37 – 26:59
And because I’d never written a book before I’d written blogs and, and I articles and things, but I’d never put a book together. So a friend of mine recommended her publisher who is, uh, coincidentally or not that I believe in coincidences, but his name is ocean. Yeah. And I’m writing a book, writing a book about working on a ship.

• 26:59 – 27:32
I thought that was, uh, that was very serendipitous. And so he loved the idea of the spiritual journey in the non-spiritual place. And so he helped me to put the book together, uh, which took about nine or 10 months and just writing a chapter at a time and, you know, just doing a little bit each night. And you know, when you write, um, put together, you, you know, you’ve written parts of books, um, how you just have to do a little bit at a time and exactly baby steps.

• 27:33 – 27:38
And then, but the bit that was probably the most challenging that I needed to mother, the writing bit was easy.

• 27:39 – 28:09
We might, uh, actually people take another miss from our sponsors and, uh, and come back and talk a little bit more about mothering yourself through the journey of writing, finding my soul at sea questions on case radio 97.7 FM now pep Coleman author of finding my soul at sea, also intuitive coach. And we had just started talking about, uh, you know, when you take on that big project of, uh, of writing a book, you’ve really gotta take it one step at a time.

• 28:09 – 28:22
And you know, you’ve really had to, um, mother yourself and take care of yourself and, uh, um, you know, you really have to manage yourself very, how do you say efficiently, effectively, happily.

• 28:22 – 28:26
carefully, very compassionately. I would.

• 28:26 – 28:26
Say. Oh, nice.

• 28:27 – 29:00
Yeah. I, I remember that the writing part was easy for me and that once it actually kind of had, I had a manuscript and we went through the editing process, which was a little bit challenging when people were saying, oh, I don’t like the way you said this, or I don’t like the way you said that. And they, you know, they didn’t tell you to change it, but they did say I would recommend that yeah. Yes. And so you, you know, your, our little, our precious ego would get a bit bruised.

• 29:00 – 29:36
My, but, um, the bit that was probably the most challenging was the actual marketing, like putting that book out into the world and having people read it, people who didn’t know my story of working on ships, people who only knew me when I was at high school or people who, family members who didn’t know the stories of me working on board and people who, you know, were in my life now. Yeah. Who, who had no idea that I was a social host and traveled around the world for 10, you know, for 10 years.

• 29:37 – 30:08
So there was a lot of questioning of myself of whether or not, you know, this was the right thing to do and everybody seeing the bare, the bare bones of the truth was quite intense. And I had to do lots of self care, lots of mothering, lots of nurturing and, um, working on my mind, my thoughts, my mindset. It was, uh, yeah, it was quite a, quite an intense time.

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• 30:09 – 30:19
Yeah. And so poop. Um, I know that, uh, well actually I just noticed, uh, the other day on Basey that, uh, you posted about the book being available, uh, at a library.

• 30:20 – 30:50
Yes. In Victoria. And, and I think they’re around Australia, actually my, um, publisher ocean Reve told us the other day that you can get the book in libraries. You just have to order go in and, and ask for it, finding my soul sea. And the author apparently gets paid every time. Only a little tiny bit. Yeah. But apparently every time somebody takes your book out of the library, you get a little royalty. Oh,.

• 30:50 – 30:52
That’s so, so cool.

• 30:52 – 30:54
I didn’t know about that. So, so cool.

• 30:55 – 31:14
And, uh, and then also, as you just said, then, you know, you had to, um, you certainly had to, um, be very compassionate in managing yourself through that journey. Do you think, uh, people that we, how do you think we go in the world if we’re not mothering ourselves, not exercising, self love, self care?

• 31:15 – 32:17
Mm that’s probably one of the things that is most obvious when I, when I meet a lot of women, I, I work sort of pretty much exclusively with women and they almost always are spending a lot of time, mothering other people and taking care of serving other people and not looking after themselves. There’s not a balance there of, of mothering. And so that’s why we thought it would be a good topic to talk about today because it’s, as I say, it’s been mother’s day and this space of equally taking care of yourself, as much as you take care of other people is something that I teach my clients, my students, you know, it’s so important to bring that balance back into your life and not be feeling so resentful and angry and pissed off .

• 32:18 – 32:34
Yes. Um, you know, about everything because we don’t even realize sometimes when we are overgiving, you know, it’s just our nature. Yeah. To do that. We’ve kind of been told to do that as our culture kind of says that women, you know, take care of other people. And so you just do it.

• 32:34 – 33:11
Exactly. But, you know, and it doesn’t even, we didn’t grow up in the generation where that was applicable. I think it’s actually just, uh, my son has sort of made that observation, you know, that, um, you know, and this is just generalizing, but on just generally men don’t have that, um, you know, biologically, it’s all, it’s all about survival. And I guess, you know, way back when men didn’t have that, um, that attachment because they needed to go out and hunt, you know, it’s kind of in women, I didn’t grow up in that generation of, uh, of having to care for others at the same time.

• 33:11 – 33:33
We all grow into it when we become moms and, uh, uh, you know, siblings, if you’re the eldest child or you’re the child in the family that did, uh, was the one that took care of everybody, it’s something that just kind of comes out from you. Isn’t it. And generally, um, most women seem to seem to have that, um, seem to have that gene don’t we.

• 33:34 – 33:50
yeah, they do. And that’s, I think the important thing to recognize is that sometimes we’re doing it unconsciously and we don’t even realize that we’re, we’re, overgiving, you know, we’re that I say to my clients that they they’re recovering people pleases.

• 33:52 – 34:06
Yes, exactly. Um, I love that. So we have to wind it up. PIP, thank you for that. Uh, coming on the show today, PIP and finding my souls. See, so PIP, where can we, uh, the website that, uh, our, our audience can connect with you is,.

• 34:07 – 34:13
Is PIP And the book is in the store section.

• 34:14 – 34:20
Wonderful, wonderful PIP And you can find Pippa online, uh, just under PIP Coleman.

• 34:21 – 34:21

• 34:21 – 34:49
Yeah. Be beautiful. Beautiful. Well, thank you for joining us and, uh, Casey radio. Uh, thank you for joining us again every Tuesday, three to 4:00 PM wellness conversations. And, uh, we’d love you to turn in and if you know, uh, any family, uh, members or friends who’ve, uh, you know, would get a lot out of, uh, our wellness conversations, uh, you know, um, tell them all about it and get them to tune in. We’ll see you next Tuesday. Same back time. Same back channel.

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